Is bux.to scam? Mathematical reasoning.

There are sites pay you to watch ads.
Let's pick bux.to(referral link, so I know how many people actually registered it after reading this) and see how likely it's a scam.

First, every business wants to make money. If bux.to is clearly not making any money, then it must be a scam, or the creator is stupid.

Here are some stats:
1. Every ad user see earns $0.01.
2. Every ad earns bux.to $0.0191.
3. Net profit $0.0091 for bux.to.
The minimal cash out is $50. Most people, will become impatient and leave.
So clearly it is making money. How strange...

Ok, let's turn to it's referral program.
1. Every person you refer click a ad, you earn 0.01 cents, so does he.
2. Net profit -$0.0009 for bux.to

There are some other programs bux.to makes money from. Like premium membership, and buy referrals from Bux.to. Clearly. bux.to will not offer them to you unless they earn more money with theses offers. But just to make this simple, rule out these.

Formula:
N = net profit in 100th of a cent
u = amount of clicks by user who are not referred by anyone.
r = amount of clicks by referred users
p = fraction of clicks never become check because $50 is such a high number, assume p is evenly distributed, so it should be the same for r and u.

N = 191p(u+r) + 91u(1-p) - 9r(1-p)
Simplifies to
N = (-9 + 200 p) r + (91 + 100 p) u
As long as 4.5% of all clicks is not cashed, bux.to have a net profit.
Even if 0% of all clicks is not cashed, r is 10 times larger than u, bux.to still have a net profit.
So, this model explains bux.to can have net profit.
Then why are there many people complaining they never receive check from bux.to?

NON-MATHEMATICAL REASONING starts here.
Since bux.to does pay some(but not all) people, but many days after the request to be paid. I think it's because bux.to overestimated the amount of clicks that will not be cashed, and gone ahead used all the money they earned until someone start to request money from them.

Or, also likely, bux.to just don't want to give people money and it is intended to be a scam.

IMO, you are earning 60*2*0.01 = $1.2 per hour if there is that much ad for you to click on. I think you can do a lot of other things with that time.


Comments

Anonymous's picture

bux.to own ads

Hi,

as you stated : 2. Every ad earns bux.to $0.0191.
It's true if, and only if, ad in question is from external adviser who pay for it. I try now Bux.to as ordinary member. Bux.to shows me 30+ ads daily, but roughly 25+ of them are bux.to own ads! (buy premium membership, buy unreferred members, wow, I got money from Bux.to, and so on) For that ads nobody pay to Bux.to. So who pay all this money bux.to distributes (with long long delays)?
It's elementary, Dr. Watson! These money comes from bux.to members, who invest (so speak) for unreferred members, premium membership and things like this. As far as new members pay, some of old members can got money. Have you ever heard about 'Ponzi' scheme?

Mgccl's picture

I see, I totally ignored the

I see, I totally ignored the fact box put their own website up...
in that sense, you are right, and bux.to is a scam.

Anonymous's picture

Report to Dominica Government and your own country's police

I have emailed the government of Dominica that Bux.to which is registered in their country is scamming people in the world. Their registrar of companies have sent this report to their police and ask me to make a police report in my country and the police here will liaise with the police there. So, all that got scammed, go to http://www.dominica.gov.dm/cms/index.php?q=contact and fill up the form and then report police in your own country. :) Let's get them before they get others!

Anonymous's picture

BUX.TO IS A SCAM

yes bux.to is a scam ...the owner is an international theft and interpol looking for his

don't register to bux.to you will lose money , time

Anonymous's picture

Just look for an idiot in

Just look for an idiot in pajamas. We all know what he looks and smells like. I would turn him in even without a reward.

Anonymous's picture

Bux.to = SCAM

Bux.to is nothing more than a SCAM. I requested Payment on April 22, 2008 for $600, as a Premium Member on their Payoneer Bux.to card. As of this date May 6, 2009, I still have not received ANY PAYMENT... I invested a lot of money believing that this site was honorable, but it is nothing more than a bunch of con-artist running a scam and ripping people off. I advise anyone that is considering this to stay away from Bux.to, and if you decide to try it any way than its your loss. BUX.TO = SCAM

Anonymous's picture

Fools' money

Taking advantage of stoopid people is a business.

Anonymous's picture

Yea

You're a good man
When we're both in hell we can swim in our pools of $$$

Anonymous's picture

joinnnn

Reffer me on bux.to if want to... ps bu.to may be infact a scam but people use it and it works but im only using it 4 a membership on rs.

reffer me Witefall 801 (exactly as put)
ty.

Anonymous's picture

Still Nothing

Here I am again June 24, 2009, and as I said earlier on May 6 that I had not been paid after making a request April 22, 2008. Well still NOTHING from the FU(KING THIEVES at Bux.to. If you put anything into this site then you are just asking to get FU(KED. Stay away from them, and warn anyone else to stay away from them.

Anonymous's picture

regarding bux.to

hi
i register to bux.to on 01.02.2010, and i reffered to my friends also

r u got the payment from bux.to?
is a bux.to scam site?

please inform me on my mail

Anonymous's picture

I discovered how to make a

I discovered how to make a hacked account, after using it for one week it pays out $1 per click instead of $0.01. I created some for whoever wants them, take only one per household or else it wont work...

User Name - Password
tenxitenxis - afxjufq
giblvgqakue - irblvfp
nwhqbktdnwg - sclufox
udmvfowgqai - qsepakt
jseoakufqbl - occcccc

Anonymous's picture

Ask this guy why it went under!

No wonder some of these companies cannot pay out their people when idiots like you rip them of. You are just as much a criminal as they seem to be and should be put in the same jail cell.

Anonymous's picture

bux.to is a scam, I referred

bux.to is a scam, I referred many members and actively surfing sites for many months, once I reached $50, I requested my payout, but it's been a year and I haven't received a penny from them, don't waste your time. It won't work out with bux.to

Anonymous's picture

bux.to is a scam,

It is very shocked news for all,bux.to is a scam, So many people trying to increase there income by bux.to .Unfortunately sad news for us bux.to involved with crime because they did not pay money according to commitment. What a great shame! How to take action against them.

Anonymous's picture

bux.to is a Ponzi Scheme

Bux.to is a Ponzi scheme, hiding behind a small business model that means it gets out through a loophole of being directly labelled a Ponzi Scheme. I've been warned about saying this, I've been banned repeatedly from their idiotic blind-leading-the-blind forums for saying that Bux.to is a Ponzi scheme.

For 17 months I have waited for payment, 17 months, after being ripped off repeatedly by their promises that Premium members get paid within 30 business working days.
Ask yourself what kind of a service is that? If Bux.to were a highstreet shop it would have been burned to the ground in protest and it's owners put in jail, it's a sign of the times that a fraudulent business such as Bux.to can continue to do business through the internet unpoliced, it's a complete disgrace that this kind of thing is allowed to continue.

If you complain to Bux.to staff, who, aren't really staff, they are buffoons who continue to support a fraudulent website you will be told that you payment is in a queue, but nobody has access to the queue so cannot tell you where in the queue you are...

The Bux.to payment queue is a complete lie, by nature a queue has a beginning and end, a start and finish. You have no position in any queue otherwise you would get an ID number, you are simply being lied to.

The actual Bux.to payment system involves shooting all payment requests out of a circus-cannon while a trained ape catches them, banging it's fists onto a keyboard the ape randomly and occasionally inputs a users name, a printed piece of paper with the users name is then stuck to the apes arse for a few days, this is called 'checking to see if they are a cheater'. If the paper falls off, you're a cheater. Providing your name stays stuck with sufficient shit to the arse of an ape for approx 'infinite' days you will receive your payment minus charges for ape rental.

Yes, the above is true, Bux.to staff will deny it, but they are single cell organisms who support fraud, it's a shame because one or two of them WERE nice people. Still, they will all be one the wrong side of the fence when the law comes knocking and I wouldn't help any of them.

Bux.to forum is a fascist forum printing only good news about Bux.to keeping things as rosey as possible. Any negative comments are deleted or threads locked, you can really see the desperation of people trying in vain to get their crummy dollars back.
Telling Bux.to staff their kids have cancer, or their parents have died in a plane crash. It's saddening that Bux.to stands there with the weight of such human misery and remains stoic that "your payment is in our imaginary queuing system, please feel free to read the success stories of people who requested their payment only a few minutes ago and got paid - see, Bux.to is legit" ...That's got to take some serious ****ing balls to stand there and say that through your greedy little keyboards while people are clearly distressed that they have lost hundreds of dollars through your fraudulent website.

Bux.to is a PONZI SCHEME - WHICH IS ILLEGAL. Hiding behind a flimsy business model of clicking pathetic ads is a loophole that keeps these con artists from being truly exposed.

Anonymous's picture

Bux = SCAM

I was working on Bux before, generated $60+ but I never got paid. But this other one that I tried is promising. The founders have a good reputation on the internet, and their group has grown to 50,000 in just a few weeks. It's still on soft launch stage but all clicks will already be credited to your account. I can imagine how this will create a bang when finally launched in the coming days. So the early you register, the better. One can earn as much as $43,000 in 30-90 days. You can watch the video here and decide for yourself http://57728.powerbarclub.com/

Anonymous's picture

bux.to is fraud

hi friend i am from india . i think whoevr have used buxto has invested his time in deep shit...this website is total fraud . i have earned $250 i have requested the money but it was going to be 1 yrs since there is nothing i have got ..not a single penny...dear friend plz plz plz for god sake dont ever register to pay any kind of money to this bullshit website this type of websites are just fraud . better invest in any other thing.

Anonymous's picture

bux.to

bux is not a scam I recieve 50 dollars at may alertpay

Anonymous's picture

Bux.to was like a lottery

I was also paid 14 dollars first, got my Bux.to card, but that already expired and no money paid after the first payout. It seems that the site has been shut down or at least unreachable since a while.

Anonymous's picture

well i have read all the

well i have read all the posts and found that bux.to is really a scam ... i jus created account over there havnt deposited any amount nor i will and im on 20$ . still 30$ left for my first payout ill continue with it lets see dose it pays or not ... will post the thing with proof here soon ..

Anonymous's picture

Thanks

Good thing I read this article.. I was about to join and click some ads.. lol I guess some things are just too good to be true,

Anonymous's picture

yes its a scam

i joined after cheking a lot of proofs of people who have recived payments from bux to worked hard on it clicking everyday and also becoming a premium member and purchasing referals and then when i reach 209$ and request a payout on 28th oct 2008 and its been more then one and a half years and its still on audit i tried to register on their forum but i am never able to log in maybe cause i might leave a negative remark there they are giving me access to the forum on bux.to i have mailed them many times each time getting the same reply u will recive it soon its in audit toooo much of work its 5 feb today 2010 and still the same did anyone ever reacive payment from them do they really pay i dont think so they can just creat a dummy user on bux .to and post in placess saying payment recived and they really pay so they can get more memmbers =$
is there a real legit site like this that really pays
waiting for your reply
yogesh

Anonymous's picture

a ticket i sub on bux to to chek their curent reply

Submit a Ticket
Your ticket has been submitted to our department successfully. One of our support agents will get back to you with more information shortly.

Ticket Information
Ticket ID: HUX-105335
Department: Account Support
Full Name: yogesh chowdhry
E-mail: yogesh2975@hotmail.com
Priority: Critical
do u people really pay or is this a fruad company like so many other
its been 1 and a half years since i have requested a payment on 28 oct 2008 and its 5 feb 2010 when do i recive my payment how long is ur auditing going to last r u really going to send the payment

Anonymous's picture

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waiting for your reply.eagerly.
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Anonymous's picture

bux.to payments proof

watch this video..then u guyz can realize that Bux.to is not a scam..but their payments are too late...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvBijor-trQ

Anonymous's picture

bux.to is a scam, I invested

bux.to is a scam, I invested hundreds of dollars and I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING! I have been waiting for 2 years(TWO YEARS = 730 days = 7 3 0 d a y s).
They pay, but only to 1% of members to put "proof of payments" on their website.
One day they will just cancel the whole website and forum, like other buxes had done before.

Tell me why when they cheat you on the internet you can't do anything? Why just can't I call the police and get my money back? When you do something against their TOS, they ban you. When they do something against TOS(like not paying after 2 years of waiting) you can't do ANYTHING to them.

Anonymous's picture

I also have doubt abt Bux.to.

I also have doubt abt Bux.to. the site says that we cant create more than 1 account. but they let to creat more account via same computer. also they showing their own ads. if they are genuine they must get ads from others. otherwise how they pay back to members. but they saying that they pay for every visit. then bux.to has to pay for those ads. also these days we know abt internet cheating. so I dont think that less people invest for bux.to then how they pay for the members. so I also feel that bux.to is a scam.thanx for realising me about bux.to and save my time.

Anonymous's picture

Do NOT Join Bux.to

DO NOT JOIN BUX.TO

My last payment request from Bux.to was April 4th 2008 for $7,780...I have still NOT been Paid.
Even if Bux.to does pay you like they did me in the beginning...it's just keep you hooked so you will invest more money.Eventually you will be like me,waiting 2 years and still no payment.
If you have been scammed by Bux.to file a complaint with the Commonwealth of Dominica(this is where Bux.to is located)
Here's their website.
http://www.dominica.gov.dm/cms/index.php?q=contact

Anonymous's picture

hello, i was send all stuff

hello,
i was send all stuff you need to reactivated my card to send me my money at buxtosupport
the ticket was NLK-666239...
the support said me "we send you a new card"
now after three months the ticket at buxtosupport was DELETED
I open a new ticket and somone said "please give us the following stuff to resolv your problem"
AGAIN

Why kidding the people?????
WHY said lies to people???
Where is the new card from payoneer??
Where is my paymant????
Where is my money???

please answer the question becose i don't know what i'm doing.
George

Anonymous's picture

I have been waiting more than

I have been waiting more than 2 years for a payment. They continue to let members join and then pay these newer members to that they will say the system works and that encourages others to join. Older members who have been waiting forever, will NEVER see their money

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